well said Tom.

see I don't understand why Section 8 doesn't get inducted?!? it would be remembering DP and BK wouldn't it and thousands of others. I sorta do understand the thinking of the FIRE they think that whenever anyone dies that is significant or close to the team then they will have to get them inducted into the ROF.

But, I think it is flawed thinking and off character of the organization to take away the rights given to the ROF members. See P-dub if you get to be President of the club again, well I could see you saying hey I'm in again...lets overturn what the ownership said.

I agree with DJ - I think it would be better to induct sectino 8 as a whole .. and maybe even put intitals at the botton of the shirt.

However, the fact that the families were notified makes this all come off rather insensitive , and I can see why people would be upset. along with the anger from the members of the ROF who basically had their votes and voices nullified.

I think it is ignorant to consider inducting section 8 as opposed to fallen comrades. The Idea I have heard was they will be number 8 on the jerseys. Thats enough for me. Dan Perry was a great guy who touched so many people I think it is very appropriate. Brandon I can't say I have known. Dan I worked with for the rights of Colombian workers who were being killed. So I think it is a great honor. I think the intial thing is weak, sorry if I come off strong but. I think it is another reason why I will be fire for life....

Well I read the last entry first. Let me go back and take back my praise. Still fire for life just bitter. Without the fans the Fire are nothing, I love the play on the field, but the section is what brought me in...

If I were to brainstorm other options that would use the Ring of Fire -- and thereby respect the original choice -- but not run into some of the more problematic aspects, what about a blank jersey? It's similar to the idea of Section 8, but without the baggage that recognizing Section 8 (but really meaning Dan and Brandon) would bring.

The other option would be to not have an honoree, but I think choosing to not make a choice is already a part of the mechanism, so I don't know if it would impart the necessary recognition.

The general idea is to leverage a "moment of silence" for the Ring of Fire. As a concept, it's easier to extend to other members of the Fire family who have passed.

I think the Fire made one really good decision and one really bad one in this whole thing.

The good one, which I think is forgotten by many, comes from the fact that Brandon and Dan were not paid members of the Fire organization. Instead, they were fans, which is more important, a truer and more fundamental part of the team than anyone other than the most dedicated of players. But, there is a risk run when fans become integrated seamlessly into the fabric of a club, which I think has happened at clubs such as Boca Juniors, and I both understand and support the decision of Andrew Hauptman in making sure that the Fire stay clear of that possibility before it is even a real threat.

But where does he get off demanding that the Ring of Fire sessions become open? Huh? Just screw off, Drew.

Have we forgotten that membership in the "Ring of Fire" brings with it the honor of participating in future selections? With all due respect, to induct two individuals posthumously or to induct a group the size of Section 8 could both complicate future selections. The choice to select these two fine individuals was honorable but so too is the memorialization of them independant of the ROF. I think an individual selection of a deserving and qualified person will be best for the Ring now and in the future. God bless Dan and Brandon and their families.